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W0XIPosted - 13 May 2013 16:29  Show Profile  Email Poster  Edit Message
I have backed up the rapntap files. However, in inheriting the site from my daughter, I do not have any information on the operating system/program for it. In light of that and little time for it, it may be time to close the rapntap board. Traffic has been really low, even on other boards.

Crystal Set interest, however, has been steady and good for science fair and student activities. Hi end users, as with activity of hams, may be diminishing, although I still like CW and use is regularly.

Phil Anderson

Mike KnowltonPosted - 15 May 2013 9:34  Show Profile  Email Poster  Edit Message  
I would not like to see it go, but I do understand it how a downward spiral goes. If there are few posts to read, fewer people read the posts, even fewer respond and traffic
continues to decline.
I would hope that all the posts cold be archived somewhere. I saw in another thead that Golfguru said a thread had been deleted.
I don't know why that would be.

"Biggest killer was my last post which contained PDF data for my xtal set showing loaded Q of 1000 @ 1700kHz (which has been the thrust of the forum for all the years I have been participating) and not one of the high Q specialists could be bothered to respond (even in the negative).

(Post has since been deleted.)"

I think that should saved for future builders.

homebrewPosted - 15 May 2013 13:10  Show Profile  Email Poster  Edit Message  
I have saved links to maybe 30 subjects on high Q coils to favorites and use them regularly.
You will find a lot of links to RNT on other forums.
Losing this forum would be tramatic.
golfguruPosted - 15 May 2013 18:52  Show Profile  Email Poster  Edit Message  
>>>>>> I saw in another thread that Golfguru said a thread had been deleted.
I don't know why that would be.

I deleted it myself, as I was disgusted with the total lack of response to my "Current Mode Tuner" post, along with it's associated PDF and video links.

The video links show loaded selectivity of <2kHz (RF) at 1700kHz (at low sensitivity) in a "single tuned" setup which on all forums was considered an impossibility.
OK - say that it's working in "Q-meter mode", or some-such, - I did not really care, as long as there could have been some meaningful discussion on the results.

My experiments tried to put some actual numbers to a lot of the discussions that had taken place here over the last few years and I felt a lot of useful information could be gleaned and discussed from those results.

At the very least, it was a different and interesting (even if impractical) approach to set building.

After being informed in a PM that the experiment "doesn't offer many new insights" I guess I figured "why bother".

This is the same site that can furnish 5 pages of responses badgering a "free energy" poster, but can't respond to a serious attempt at putting some numbers to all the Xtal-set theorizing that goes on.

I have always been one of the first respondents to encourage others with their experiments.



Edited by - golfguru on 5/15/2013 9:01:34 PM

Richard RittyPosted - 16 May 2013 10:43  Show Profile  Email Poster  Edit Message
Retiring after a lifetime avoiding anything containing wire or electronic components, I happened on the Xtal Society and its Forums. Since then I have several years of fun - albeit at a humble level - learning and experimenting with crystal radios.

Logging in again yesterday after an absence of 8 months I was horrified to see the dramatic and apparently terminal decline of the Forums.

It’s a desperate shame Phil. You’ve all done such a fantastic job with the Society and the Forums were an important element. But one has to be realistic. When I look at the web sites that were blossoming and developing several years ago, most are still there but their links are increasingly less reliable and the time of their last updates tells its own story. I just echo the hope that the Forum archives will somehow remain available for searching.

And if it is the end of the Forums can I on behalf of the many people out there who have been stimulated and helped by the Forums, thank all you stalwarts who have freely given your time to answer our dumb questions and who have so willingly and with such good grace provided us with advice and encouragement. You know who you are.

At the end of the day you can lead a horse to the water. But I guess you have to stop flogging it when its dead.

golfguruPosted - 16 May 2013 17:20  Show Profile  Email Poster  Edit Message  
Thanks for replying Richard.


Edited by - golfguru on 5/16/2013 5:22:49 PM

Garry NicholsPosted - 16 May 2013 18:8  Show Profile  Email Poster  Edit Message
I'm not quite sure what to throw in here. My activity has declined a lot. I always get into the Nontest in winter and look forward to it.

I wonder if the lack of an organized "real" contest has contributed to the RnT decline in activity?

The Radioboard summer Homebrew contest does not draw many participants, but it is more serious than the Nontest.

I get into that one also and look forward to it.

Could be that everyone has taken the art to the level that they wish to and are not inquiring and experimenting very much any more. That is true for me at this point in time.

But it could change in the future, for me. I tend to cycle through things and eventually get back again to where I was on stuff when I left it.


StevePPosted - 16 May 2013 21:47  Show Profile  Email Poster  Edit Message  
I just now joined in order to reply to this topic. I have lurked on and off over the years, but I just finished reading most of the advanced forum *from the beginning of time* in order to find some information having to do with my newly acquired HP4243A Q meter.

The archives are full of useful stuff. I would not want to see that disappear. It is bad enough that many members have deleted files that their old posts referred to, but at least the text is still available in the forum.

If you must delete it, then give someone a week or two to download it all and archive it somewhere else.


_J_Posted - 22 May 2013 10:47  Show Profile  Email Poster  Edit Message
I will continue to help keep it up if I can, I was actually sort of involved in starting this with Becca after being elbowed out of a couple other venues and I think it serves a niche for Crystal Radio.

John Davidson

golfguruPosted - 22 May 2013 17:11  Show Profile  Email Poster  Edit Message  
I'd like to see it stay, but we seriously need some input from all the self confessed "lurkers".

Also need responses from senior members and moderators, to serious attempts at presenting (hopefully) new material.

Otherwise, what is the point of having a "Discussion Group"?

I also seriously question how many readers actually bother to click on the "relevant links" that are included in posts.
(I suspect not everyone.)


Edited by - golfguru on 5/22/2013 5:12:08 PM

StevePPosted - 23 May 2013 21:21  Show Profile  Email Poster  Edit Message  
I don't personally care if the material stays around as a discussion list; I'd just like to see the old discussions stay as a "read only" archive.

I, for one, do click on links that are included in posts.

Mike KnowltonPosted - 24 May 2013 14:57  Show Profile  Email Poster  Edit Message  
"I'd just like to see the old discussions stay as a "read only" archive."


John Bruce McCreathPosted - 24 May 2013 16:12  Show Profile  Email Poster  Edit Message  
If the "Discussion Group" is terminated, please archive all of the postings, as several others have mentioned. There is a wealth of info there that would be a shame to lose!

73, J.B., VE3EAR

golfguruPosted - 24 May 2013 18:7  Show Profile  Email Poster  Edit Message  
Some "snapshots" of the site through the years (2001-2013) are viewable here.*/


razorradioPosted - 7 June 2013 19:0  Show Profile  Email Poster  Edit Message
I'd be a real shame if all this isn't archived.
I learned a lot and had a lot of fun with the little bit of discussion I had on here.

If rap N Tap goes, it will feel kind of like the state of Crystal Radio in the early 90's. When Radio Shack had hardly any radio parts and almost no one was on the internet talking about xtal radio.

gsparksPosted - 17 June 2013 20:12  Show Profile  Email Poster  Edit Message
I would miss it for sure, it is the only forum I still try to keep up with. I remember many years ago having trouble with my first double tuned spiderweb set and getting help here. That set is still my primary and sits on night stand tuned to same station to listen to the Astros during base ball and coasttocoast with the earphone in my pillow when I cannot sleep. since the cancer I have started but not finished many things. I finished last treatment of this round of chemo Sunday so I can eat chocolate and drink coffee again. typing is difficult, but possible. I appreciate all the prayers during the years. I'm not promising I could participate much in a tech forum, some in social. If a way could be found to search archives were found it would be great.
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